tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25676168.post4120331789696506678..comments2024-01-27T13:13:38.405-05:00Comments on Biblical Theology: Ezra 7:9-10 - A Description of Pastoral MinistryMatthew S. Harmonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17506399043911656897noreply@blogger.comBlogger3125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25676168.post-7979241008980152472007-01-13T10:42:00.000-05:002007-01-13T10:42:00.000-05:00Marty,
You've raised an important set of issues r...Marty,<br /><br />You've raised an important set of issues regarding the nature of calling and full-time vocational ministry (FTVM). All I can offer here are a couple of thoughts.<br /><br />1. I agree that "circumstantial leading, the prompting and recognition by others, and the enigmatic 'leading by the Holy Spirit'" are all part of the equation. But one thing you did not mention (though I am sure you would agree with me on this) is a recognition of gifts consistent with FTVM. These gifts are usually revealed through opportunities to serve well before a person is being paid to minister in those specific capacities. There MUST be confirmation from others in the body that a person does in fact have the requisite gifting to help ensure that a person is not delusional in their own estimation of their gifts. Spurgeon in "Lectures to my Students" is particularly good on this subject.<br /><br />2. Others in the body should also be involved enough in that person's life to ask challenging questions that probe a potential FTVM candidate's motivations for ministry. No one is perfect here; none of our motivations are 100% pure this side of glory. However, specific probing of a person's motivations for seeking FTVM at least forces the person to wrestle with potential pride, selfish ambition, desire for self-glory. A question I might suggest is "Would you be willing to carry out your FTVM in a context where you received little or no recognition of your service this side of heaven?" The examples of men like Jeremiah should be a sobering challenge to all who consider FTVM.<br /><br />Hope this helps. There are simply no "tidy" formulas for discerning God's call to ministry, but this should not surprise us. We serve a living and personal God, not a mathematical algorithm.Matthew S. Harmonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17506399043911656897noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25676168.post-27347098742659516272007-01-12T19:41:00.000-05:002007-01-12T19:41:00.000-05:00Thanks for the insight Matt. I had not read this ...Thanks for the insight Matt. I had not read this passage in that light before. The whole issue of call is a difficult one as it seems so often we, I, get to caught up in the specifics of a calling and overlook the general call to study, practice and teach God’s word as a regular course of life. The specifics will work out as God prepares the way and leads, in what ever manner that is. Maybe the realty of calling is to do what is obvious in our call; study, practice and teach, and let the specifics work out as God desires and when He desires.<br /><br />With regard to the practice of the word if we were to take the passage to heart we would realize that it is not just about the doing but about the setting our hearts to “practice” what we study. Actually all three things are not simply things we just do but we are to make as priorities by setting our, as you say, “will and the affections” on them. <br /><br />Anyway thanks for helping me think more about this area and also to further see how meaningful the Old Testament is to us daily.Bluegrass Endurancehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06370596191365528849noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25676168.post-29347702519742952072007-01-09T20:53:00.000-05:002007-01-09T20:53:00.000-05:00Dr.Harmon - these are some of my favorite verses f...Dr.Harmon - these are some of my favorite verses from the OT, and challenging too. I never looked at them from a pastor's perspective, but rather a personal perspective (which you alluded to at the end of the post). They are a great reminder of the wonderful opportunity we have as students of His word! Thanks for the challenge & encouragement.Mark Kellyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00794219631845481723noreply@blogger.com